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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 10:48 am 
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He's the Narrator of course.

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I"m saying this without having read the script, but would it really matter if the actors are a bit older than what the script entails?


Well, I think it would, although I think some would disagree. I've explained why I think it would earlier in this thread, but here are my main points:

- Django is a freed slave with a history of running away. If he were a man in his forties I'd have to wonder if he would still try to escape. Wouldn't he have excepted his lot in life by then?

- Django trains under the guidance of the older Dr. Schultz. Typically the teacher is older than the student. By making him older I don't think the dynamic works as well. At one point Schultz calls Django "son", which I think would be given a more negative context if Django were older.

- If Django was older (and is described as being skinny in the script), how much use would he make as a slave? Wouldn't he have moved indoors as a house slave, living in relative comfort?

- It's implied that Django's wife is in her twenties. I suppose Django could have a much younger wife, but I'd say it's more likely that they are close in age. If you were to make him older, you'd probably maker her older too. And a black woman in her forties is probably not the kind of woman who would be coveted by older, white men.

As for the role of Calvin Candie, a few people online have argued that it wouldn't change the role if he was played by a younger actor. But consider some of the actors who were brought up before these DiCaprio rumours surfaced. Guys like Harvey Keitel, Powers Boothe, and Jeff Bridges. Clearly the character has a certain image that DiCaprio just doesn't have. I know he's an actor, and should have the talent to play a villain like Candie, but some actors are just better suited for certain roles than others. I find the idea of DiCaprio on screen, with a grownup moustache and white suit, speaking with a southern drawl to be really unappealing.

One final note, there actually is a Narrator in the script (and a rather unnecessary one at that).

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 10:15 am 
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Word on the street is now that DiCaprio is all lined up to be the villain... and Waltz and Jackson are onboard. A deal still has yet to materialize with Smith... but now Jamie Foxx is rumored to be next in line.

Oh and it comes out Christmas 2012

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 6:11 pm 
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looks like jamie foxx is going to be django (or at least he's like 80% there).

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Sounds good to me.

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A slightly better choice than Smith, but still not great. I don't understand Tarantino's interest in just signing the biggest name actors for parts, regardless if they're suitable or not. I suppose I can live with Foxx's casting, but there's still DiCaprio to think about, who I'm hoping isn't cast in this.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 7:31 pm 
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A slightly better choice than Smith, but still not great. I don't understand Tarantino's interest in just signing the biggest name actors for parts, regardless if they're suitable or not. I suppose I can live with Foxx's casting, but there's still DiCaprio to think about, who I'm hoping isn't cast in this.


foxx is hardly a big name, he's really only got Ray.

also, most of tarantino's movies have big name actors. it's how you use them, not just signing them to guarantee box office results.

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foxx is hardly a big name, he's really only got Ray.


And Collateral (which he was nominated for a few awards), Dream Girls (ditto), Redemption: The Stan Tookie Williams Story (ditto again) , and Ali. He has his own radio show, has done albums. He's not exactly obscure.

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also, most of tarantino's movies have big name actors. it's how you use them, not just signing them to guarantee box office results.


But when he writes characters a certain way, then casts actors who aren't suited for these same characters, I have to wonder if the reason he wants them is because they're big name actors. Like, there's no reason why DiCaprio would be in this movie. Yet there's rumours that he's the leading candidate to play a character he's totally not suited to play. I've often read that he has wanted to work with DiCaprio for a long time now, but if he casts him in this it will seem like he's trying to shoehorn him into the movie for the sake of working for him.

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but who says they're not suited? an actor should be able to cover any type of role. sure, leo's never done a bad guy role before, but there's always a beginning.

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t3cii wrote:
WJK wrote:
foxx is hardly a big name, he's really only got Ray.


And Collateral (which he was nominated for a few awards), Dream Girls (ditto), Redemption: The Stan Tookie Williams Story (ditto again) , and Ali. He has his own radio show, has done albums. He's not exactly obscure.

I'm not a huge fan, but the guy's got an Oscar and a Grammy. He's a successful sonnabitch.

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it was tying it into the rape-revenge stories and making light of a verys erious sub-genre that kind of offended me.


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2011 10:08 pm 
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Sorry, I think some actors are better suited for certain roles than others. The character Dicaprio is rumoured to be playing is supposed to be at least in his 40s/50s. He reads like a character who would look like this:

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So maybe you'll understand why don't think he's suitable.

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t3cii wrote:
Sorry, I think some actors are better suited for certain roles than others. The character Dicaprio is rumoured to be playing is supposed to be at least in his 40s/50s. He reads like a character who would look like this:

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So maybe you'll understand why don't think he's suitable.


I might be inclined to say you just want to share your bed with Powers Boothe.

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Wha? I don't even...

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There's nothing to be ashamed of, Terry.

I mean, with a name like that, who wouldn't?

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t3cii wrote:
Wha? I don't even...


Just joking ! You once mentioned Powers Boothe would be a great Batman for The Dark Knight Returns.

And is it absolutely impossible that DiCaprio could play Candle ? I wouldn't consider the age to be troublesome, there's makeup after all.

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t3cii wrote:
Sorry, I think some actors are better suited for certain roles than others. The character Dicaprio is rumoured to be playing is supposed to be at least in his 40s/50s. He reads like a character who would look like this:

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So maybe you'll understand why don't think he's suitable.


some hair dye, a southern accent, basic facial makeup, problem solved.

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Just joking ! You once mentioned Powers Boothe would be a great Batman for The Dark Knight Returns.


I remember that. You replied:

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IT'S HIM ! IT'S HIM !!!!!!

*Slaps himself*

I remember him from Sin City, looked quite different but he was still awesome.


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And is it absolutely impossible that DiCaprio could play Candle ? I wouldn't consider the age to be troublesome, there's makeup after all.


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some hair dye, a southern accent, basic facial makeup, problem solved.


You mean I get to watch Leonardo DiCaprio on film with a thin mustache, hair dye, doing a southern accent, pretending to be all smooth and bad? Well shit, why didn't you say so?

On a different note, I heard Michael Cera is going to play Wolverine! You might think that's a stupid idea, but hey, put a wig on him and some makeup and he's got that shit on lock!

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I remember that. You replied:


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IT'S HIM ! IT'S HIM !!!!!!

*Slaps himself*

I remember him from Sin City, looked quite different but he was still awesome.


HEY ! It is him :lol: !

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On a different note, I heard Michael Cera is going to play Wolverine! You might think that's a stupid idea, but hey, put a wig on him and some makeup and he's got that shit on lock!


:lol:

This is understandable, specially with someone as "young-looking" as DiCaprio is, but think about it, there are PLENTY of older actors Tarantino could've considered for that part, actors he knows more than people like DiCaprio.

Consider Michael Parks, who has played Earl McGraw in Kill Bill Vol. 1, Kill Bill Vol. 2, From Dusk Till Dawn and Death Proof. This actor, despite being obscure, is considered by Tarantino to be an actor as good, if not better, than Robert DeNiro, why not choosing him for the role of Marvin Candle ? Maybe because he is not how Tarantino envisioned the character.

What I'm trying to say is that Tarantino knows his trade, knows what he wants in his movies, and knows he has the leverage to do what he wants, I wouldn't think he would hire DiCaprio unless he had a good reason for it, even if it seems incongruent with the script.

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I haven't read the script, nor do I want to read a word of it until the movie's done, so I don't want to comment too much on the matter.

I will say, however, that if any filmmaker has earned total and implicit trust with regards to casting, it's Tarantino. I'm not saying that he's a perfect director (my heretical views about Pulp Fiction have gone on record), but as far as I can tell, the man has a perfect track record for coaxing amazing performances out of his cast.

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I was just thinking, and an actor like Travolta, who had only been in dancing movies and musicals probably seemed like a weird choice to play a gangster, and there are a lot of other people that tarantino has casted and then put out of their comfort zones.

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I was just thinking, and an actor like Travolta, who had only been in dancing movies and musicals probably seemed like a weird choice to play a gangster, and there are a lot of other people that tarantino has casted and then put out of their comfort zones.


I was thinking the exact same thing about Travolta, I wonder how many people were thinking he was a bad choice at the time.

Then again, I don't think internet forums were the bomb in the 90's.

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