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Nothing personal Doctor Paranoia ! I really believe that a book that had the collaborative work of Chris Claremont and Bill Sienkewicz is anything but "C-List", it's not usual for a sub-par team to get that treatment unless it's done by editorial mandate, MAYBE that was the case with New Mutants, but that's as far as I can go when speaking of that team.

Hell, in fact, I'm going to question that bullshit categorization RIGHT NOW BIATCHES !

I mean, really, are Wolverine and Spider-Man THE BEST Marvel characters just because they are whored around such a large amount of titles ? Or maybe "A-List" has nothing to do with the overall quality of a character but rather by following ?

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Doug Moench and Bill Sienkewicz worked on Moon Knight... yet Moon Knight is still a C-Lister. I don't think having talented writers/artists work on a character elevates their status.



No, Wolverien and spider-Man are not the best ubiquity does not equal quality... but they are in fact A-List. The "-List" thing is not based on quality, just quantity... Someone like Justn Bieber is an A-Lister, it's sad but true. Being C-List does not mean they are a bad team or their books are bad... just that they aren't really popular. Someone like Aqua-Man is A_List, while Namor is B, probably C... it's just the way things work.

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@RealSlimCAvery

I would say Aqua Man is at the to end of B list, I suppose it depends on your scale though,

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

See, I would put him at the low end of A. Full disclosure... I despise Aquaman.

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@RealSlimCAvery

I dunno, if he was considered A list by DC, I don't think they would have let him appear in Smallville.

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

So Superman isn't A-List?

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@RealSlimCAvery

Of course he is, but none of the guest heroes were, A listers deserve their own movies or series.

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

That was great, especially since Thanos played such a prominent role. It was very poignant and there were a lot of cool instances where the layout of the comic page was played with quite a bit. I also really liked that even though the Captain Marvel/Rick Jones duality is essentially ripped off from the DC Captain Marvel, it makes it its own by presenting the psychological challenges involved with two beings having to share the same body.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

Figured I would get my two cents in on the C-List debate, my personal opinion on Aquaman is that he is a High C or a Low B the reason being that no one but Peter David has been able to write him as an A lister, his power set doesnt help that much either. New Mutants on the other hand were a Low A-Level team when created, until Liefeld destroyed them and made the X-Force but that is another argument. Marvel has always been lets shove whoever is hot down their throats, which why Wolverine & Spiderman is over used.

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Aquaman's problems:

1) Lack of creativity (writers).

2) Lack of testicles (also writers).

If more writers took risks, like Peter David did by turning the character into a "Viking + Conqueror + Superhero" mixture, then Aquaman would gradually shed off the "Super-Friends" stigma and slowly become more accepted.

But no, instead we have DC making him "rad" and "cool", when it actually came off as this:

http://www.letsbefriendsagain.com/comics/2011-10-05.jpg

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There's every reason to believe this series would be a cheap cash-in, but it's actually very well done and often even beautiful. It even made me respect Hank Pym as a character and I think that's probably the highest praise I can give anything.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

Pretty cool. Makes me want to read more Flash comics as well as Final Crisis.



Ehhhhhhh.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

You might want to be cautious on that last one !

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Earth Abides
Post Apocalyptic book written and set in 1949, it's awesome so far, The Road (written almost 60 years later) pales in comparison,

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

I'll have to check that out if you really think it's better than The Road.

Anyway, this was fantastic.



Korvac would make a great "villain" in an Avengers movie.

Also, the sight of eighteen Avengers waiting for and then commandeering a bus is hilarious. If not Korvac, I'd at least like to see something akin to that in a sequel.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

it's a different beast, really, The Road is just the immediate comparison, it's a lot less bleak, and the late 40s setting makes it feel like an old B-movie, which is awesome. It's without a doubt a lot more enjoyable than The Road, and easier to read, and therefore I prefer it, but whether or not it's better, I'll have to wait until I finish it to decide.

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

As well as the terrible special effects no doubt.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

you should have seen the obvious matte painting of deserted San Francisco I saw in my head!

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We're all actors, Laurie. I'm just an actor who read the script.

What an amazing series. Especially in this book where it felt like Alan Moore knew his run was coming to an end so he just started throwing out all these crazy awesome plot ideas. In fact, "Loving the Alien" was probably one of the craziest and most disturbing issues of a comic I've ever read. I can definitely see "I have no mouth and I must scream" as being a major inspiration. Anyway, needless to say everyone should read this should they get a chance.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

Simply epically fantastic.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."