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Thinking about the movie set in 1985 with the Keene act passed in what- 1977?? This really makes Rorcharch an outcast. Sure he met with other heroes once and again but for the most part he ran the streets looking for trouble.

I think Alan Moore put it best:

"The man has a king-sized deathwish".

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Just watched The Punisher, 2004 with John Travolta. 100% Rorscarch ripoff including dialogue... can pass as Rorscarch activities pre-1985, would reccomend all bear this in mind and see movie.

Pretty sure the dialogue in the movie copies The Punisher more than it does Watchmen.

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Say, Doc, did I ever tell you I'm the only metal that's liquid at room temperature?

I have seen Watchmen enough times to declare this is a direct ripoff of Rorscarch. Evidence is seen in the film.

I have seen both enough times to know that you're wrong.

Both are men. Both are vigilantes. Both are characters that originated in a comic.
But no.
Thomas Jane's Punisher came out before the Watchmen film.
By like 4-5 years.
And I've read the entire run that Punisher film was based on.
No Rorschach Rip-offs to be found.

If there are any overlapping bits of dialog or anything, it was unintentional.
"Rip-off" sounds intentional. Why would they try and rip off a character from Watchmen? Whats the point?
And is there even a reason to draw a comparison?

Btw its Rorschach. Not Rorscarch.
And pointing out the fact he's a loner is like pointing out the fact he wears a hat.
Its painfully obviously.

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Okay, it's easy to clear this matter up with very little fanfare.

No.

Also, even though The Punisher film clearly isn't a rip-off of Rorschach, I feel it's a fallacy to argue that to be the case because the movie came out before Watchmen.

Watchmen was out in 1985, remember, guys?

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

well it sounded like he was comparing movie to movie.
And to make the point that the 2004 Punisher film ripped off a character from the Watchmen comic, that came out in 1985, sounds even more ludicrous to me.

Wheres the common ground between a 2004 Punisher film and the Watchmen comic made in 1985?

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I believe you mean 1986...

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haha this would almost be an oh snap if I wasn't just following Ziller.

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I was directing it to both of you

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Close enough.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

Point. Exactly.

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Moral of the story is that Watchmen was released from 1986 to 1987. Yet Punisher (and other vigilante types had come before) so couldn't one argue that Rorschach's dialogue was a shout out to characters like Punisher, and not the other way around?

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That makes sense.
Lots of characters can clearly be seen IN the Watchmen characters.

Comedian reminds me of like... the Joker + Captain America + The Punisher
Nite Owl is like... Clark Kent/Batman
Rorschach is like... Batman + The Punisher + The Question
And I think Dr.Manhattan can pretty much be compared to the reality of a character like Superman

So yeah.

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I totally agree.

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Fair enough. I thought about mentioning Ted Kord.
But I'm not in the business of sucking up to people.

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How is that sucking up to anybody? If DC hadn't stopped Moore Ted Kord would have been in Watchmen (or whatever the title would have been)

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Cause, last I remember, apparently you're the only other one here who makes that connection.

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Yup, just me and Alan moore...

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