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Oh I see.

I'm sorry for the long questions about the intro, I really want to go in depth with it as IMO it's one of the best intros to a movie ever lol.

Does anyone feel me on the nostalgia thing? It gives me chills when that pops up.

I also have a couple more questions, I believe the Comedian has fought Adrian before and won?

And how the fuck is Adrian so powerful. Rorschach can obviously fight very well and he couldn't land a single hit on him. I think they made him look overpowered. What does he have that they don't?

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The Comedian and Adrian fought when Adrian first started out, and you're correct, the Comedian did indeed win.
Adrian is at the peak of human physical condition, but one gripe that a lot of people had with the movie, including me, is that the characters jump around and move like superhumans, and are definitely powered up.

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Yeah, thats kind of what I was thinking. Im glad you guys kinda see where im coming from. Looking forward to your guyses and other peoples inputs tomorrow

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"What happened to the American dream? It came true! Your lookin' at it."

No problem, it's always nice to talk to a person with similar interests.


Yeah, I get you. The entire intro gives me chills and the television freezing on that image when they begin their fight is pretty evocative.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

I think they tried to make the intro best as possible for fans.

Did that whole prison scene actually happen in the book? With that midget and two dudes? I don't really think it ties into the story that well other than that Rorschach got put in prison.

I'm really siked to read the novel. You guys are saying such good things about it now i'm really curious to see whats different from that and the movie.

One thing I didn't really like about the movie was the mars scenes. Some of them just seem drawn out and boring. I do however like when Laurie is able to smash that thing with a few punches. Was she mad that the Comedian was her father and didn't know? Or was she mad that she found out the Comedian was her father and now he's dead? It seemed like the Comedian really cared for both of them as he has pictures of Sally all over his apartment.

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"What happened to the American dream? It came true! Your lookin' at it."

First and foremost, welcome to the forum, always great to have enthusiastic folk in here !

The scene with Rorschach and the prisoners is indeed in the book, I personally think it adds to Rorschach's character that he was able to kill two superiorly larger man than him with nothing more than clever timing and proper momentum, I think Moore was trying to say that it doesn't matter if you're not tall or physically capable, it just matters what you do and what you think, a department in which Rorschach was a little fucked up if anything.

As for Laurie, I always thought she was mad due to having her ideals practically being shit upon by the people she loved, as well as coming to terms with the fact that she doesn't have a choice in everything that happens in her life, some things are just going to happen, regardless of what you want. Still, despite all this, she is incredibly far behind Doctor Manhattan, Ozymandias, Rorschach, The Comedian and even Nite-Owl II, she really is the weakest link, makes me wonder if Moore had difficulty writing female characters at the time.

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I've never agreed with you regarding Laurie, I think she is pretty developedb (In the comic at least. In the movie she's just a walking pair of tits.)
She's bitchy, aggressive, and never really grew up.

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Say, Doc, did I ever tell you I'm the only metal that's liquid at room temperature?

Thanks for the warm welcome and yeah i'm looking forward to reading the comic and stuff so i'm really enthusiastic at the moment.

Yeah I see what you mean. I really actually liked what they did for him in the prison scenes like you said, you don't have to be able to bench press 400 pounds to be strong. You just have to think quickly.

Laurie seems kind of like a bitch to some people in the movie like to Dr.Manhattan, Rorschach, even her mother.

Can someone answer me what she actually did for the Watchmen? She really didn't do much in the story to be honest. I guess she fits in but it bought a lot of screen time for her.

Also, when Holis Mason was killed, was he having flash backs to his time with the Minutemen? And when he is about to be killed and realizing this is the final end, is that Moloch?

And IMO The Comedian has to be one of the more stronger vigilantes. He defended himself well against Adrian even though it was undoubtedly the end for him, I just think they could have made Mason look a bit better. It was really sad when the music stops and he just gets killed. I thought that was kinda dirty.

Oh yeah, do you guys think there will ever be a Watchmen 2 movie? I desperately want to see it being made and since the Watchmen 2 is actually coming out in the comic book genre, do you think its a possibility?

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"What happened to the American dream? It came true! Your lookin' at it."

I agree with that assesment of her character, still, she's nothing compared to right-wing psychotic suicidal vigilante, megalomaniac crazy / not crazy übermensch, trascendentally overpowered detached pseudo-human creature, thoroughly deconstructed silver age superhero, and of course, second best comic book character of all time.

Besides, the movie is essentially the same story-wise, how is she not also a pair of walking tits in the comic ? I agree Malin Akerman needs a long way to go to call herself a good actress, but the problem was never her, it was her character, opinion-wise at least.

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A walking pair of tits? Sure she's a different character in the film, but I think both iterations are fantastic - brilliantly written.

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I disagree, Moore just isn't a great writer for female characters. I mean, not to say that all his female characters inherently suck, it's just they're either hit or miss.

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She played a big part in Dan's character development if nothing else.


Yeah, that was him.


It's just not gonna happen for both financial and artistic reasons. Watchmen didn't do particularly well at the box office and a a sequel would destroy the point of the ending of the movie.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

ARGH !

Please, thou must not ask for this ! Prequels are already bad enough, a sequel is just unforgivable !

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What if they made a Watchmen movie that's a prequel, but it follows up to the sequel lol

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"What happened to the American dream? It came true! Your lookin' at it."

I hated how they tackled Jon's nudity in the movie.
Its my major complaint about the movie.
In the comics you see a clear outlined progression from a full body suit to nothing.
It shows in a simple way the progression of him losing his humanity.

In the movie it was only ever the speedo and his birthday suit.
I think because it wasn't outlined clearly WHY he was naked, audiences may have thought it was gratuitous or simply for shock effect.

Maybe I missed a line in the movie or something, but I think they didn't handle it too well.

I'm not one who thinks they should do away with the nudity, it does serve a distinct purpose.
But I don't think that purpose was made clear enough in any cut of the movie.

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I'll be right back. I gotta go see a man about a mule.

I agree with you on that. It's annoying to see him in a suit one moment, and the next he is naked. What's the point?

Well, anyways can he not wear clothing? Or he just doesn't want to because he doesn't care what anyone thinks.. etc.

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"What happened to the American dream? It came true! Your lookin' at it."

You've seen the movie? and read the graphic novel?
The answers are in there...

I'm not quite sure what you don't get.

There is a point.
I know the point.
We all know the point.

I suggest you carefully re-read the GN.

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I'll be right back. I gotta go see a man about a mule.

He hasn't read it at all yet you blubbering dingleberg.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

Yeah, sorry I haven't read it yet. I'm receiving it in the mail on tuesday, however.

Sorry, I didn't know there was a point. I just didn't know why he is naked all the time and only a few shots have seen him wearing a suit.

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"What happened to the American dream? It came true! Your lookin' at it."

Smugness. You must drop it down a notch or two.

I don't think there's any point to Jon's nudity, if there's anything that shows how he loses his humanity, it's certainly not his dangling blue dick.

When you see it in the comic (graphic novel is for hipsters) then it's mostly because of Moore's approach to sexuality in the medium, he has always commented on how people should be less conservative about seeing uncensored sex or genitalia in a comic book.

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