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Which should make our Cut?
DC/UC version 18%  18%  [ 2 ]
Trimmed gore version 36%  36%  [ 4 ]
TC version 45%  45%  [ 5 ]
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 Post subject: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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Needed a new thread for this, as the other vote is still in the balance. If you haven't had your say on that proposed change yet, go do so!

Anywho, the scene in question here is the flashback in which Dr Manhattan blows up some gangsters in Moloch's den.

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AvatarIII and TheMovieDude have proposed trimming down the ceiling gore shot
Godziller66 proposed delaying the line of dialogue "I'm not sure if I know what that means", effectively making the scene the theatrical cut version.

To avoid a split vote, you have two votes each - you don't have to use the second. You can't vote for the same option twice.

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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i played the dc/uc, and the zillacut side by side and i didn't notice a difference.

i stand by my original thought, and i think the trimmed ceiling gore works better, but my original suggestion was actually to trim a bit off both ends of the gore shot, it seems you just trimmed from the back end. i kind of think that it should cut to the gore already in motion, rather than static and the hand unsticking from the ceiling, maybe i should have been clearer originally.

also the location o0f the hand at the end of the shot when it cuts to dr m's face, it kind of looks like it's slapping him on the cheeck, not sure if that was even intentional, but it looks odd.

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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AvatarIII wrote:
i played the dc/uc, and the zillacut side by side and i didn't notice a difference.

The difference is in the audio.

AvatarIII wrote:
my original suggestion was actually to trim a bit off both ends of the gore shot, it seems you just trimmed from the back end. i kind of think that it should cut to the gore already in motion, rather than static and the hand unsticking from the ceiling, maybe i should have been clearer originally.

Ah, ok - if your version gets the most votes I'll change it to this^

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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AYBGerrardo wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
my original suggestion was actually to trim a bit off both ends of the gore shot, it seems you just trimmed from the back end. i kind of think that it should cut to the gore already in motion, rather than static and the hand unsticking from the ceiling, maybe i should have been clearer originally.

Ah, ok - if your version gets the most votes I'll change it to this^

Please do. I was just about to suggest that myself.

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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Okay, I watched about each of these cuts several times in order to choose a favourite. I decided after the fifth viewing that definitely don't like the trimmed version. There's just something about it I don't like. I like that the falling rib.

By the eleventh viewing, I came to like the Theatrical Cut where you delayed the line "I'm not sure if I know what that means" the most. It comes off more dramatic and you don't have that uncomfortable silence. It flows better. So my vote goes to #3.

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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I like the DC/UC placement of the line.
It gives us a quiet moment to ponder the implications of what just happened before Wally gives us his "God exists and he's American" line. I really like seeing Doc's close-up with no dialogue.

Not sure why this was changed for the theatrical cut. Maybe someone from WB said "Wordless close-up? Boring!"

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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Ok guys, 24 hours left for this one. Don't forget, you can always use your second vote if you want to prevent your least favourite version from making the cut.

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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On the one hand, I like AvatarIII's suggestion of what to do with the gore.

On the other hand, I like the TC's placement of the line.

Is there any way we can have both?

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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Yes, there is. I feel dumb for not having included that.

I'd change the poll, but I think it resets it. So if anyone wants to vote for the combined edit, post that that's the case and I'll count it tomorrow. If you want to better this new entry's chances, you can remove any previous votes you may have made.

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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I'm going to cheerlead for my favourite version right about....

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Okay, I'm done...

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Here's what I feel -

Take Ziller's edit, and give the dialogue little pauses in the line "Hollis Mason, a retired superhero, writes a book ..." because Crudup says the line too fast IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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Still tied... adding another 24 hours.

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AYBGerrardo wrote:
Still tied... adding another 24 hours.


maybe you should make that trimmed gore TC hybrid that curi suggested.

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AvatarIII wrote:
AYBGerrardo wrote:
Still tied... adding another 24 hours.
maybe you should make that trimmed gore TC hybrid that curi suggested.
I would personally vote against that...

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DogWithHeadSplitOpen wrote:
AvatarIII wrote:
AYBGerrardo wrote:
Still tied... adding another 24 hours.
maybe you should make that trimmed gore TC hybrid that curi suggested.
I would personally vote against that...

Me too, but maybe some other people prefer it.

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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To repeat...

AYBGerrardo wrote:
So if anyone wants to vote for the combined edit, post that that's the case and I'll count it tomorrow.

It currently has 0 votes.

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AYBGerrardo wrote:
To repeat...

AYBGerrardo wrote:
So if anyone wants to vote for the combined edit, post that that's the case and I'll count it tomorrow.

It currently has 0 votes.

There may be a lack of motivation due to the fact that it's not an actual, clickable option, but yeah if people don't want to vote for it then oh well.

But I think it has Curi's vote. So that'd be 1.

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But I think it has Curi's vote. So that'd be 1.

Exactly right. I thought that went without saying.

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 Post subject: Re: The WCM Cut poll: Gangster Edit
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i might as well use my second vote for the hybrid cut too then.

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Whoops, forgot to check this last night, but it seems the TC version has just edged out the competition.

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