Satan's Slut wrote:
Smutty wrote:
Satan's Slut wrote:
Hence the most acclaimed GN of all time became one of the most enduring, critically and publically acclaimed films of all time, and.... oh, wait; no it didn't.
It's a bit hard to make that kind of judgement after a mere year isn't it?
Just accept the fact that some people like the scene.
It's okay that you hate the scene and feel violent hatred towards anyone who likes it and tries to explain to you why they like it but.... oh, wait; no it isn't.
It's just a scene in a movie. It's not like AYB stole your girlfriend. Grow the fuck up. Feel free to express your opinion, but don't be a nazi asshole about it.
Erm.. it's not really that hard to make that judgement at all; I read a lot of film and media magazines and talk films on lots of forums apart from this one. At the end of last year the only mentions 'Watchmen' was getting (if any) were either for the title sequence, or as a buzzword for 'folly'; the only time it appeared in the usual 'End of Year' Lists was much the same reasons. The majority of forums I go on are all in agreement; flawed/missed opportunity, etc, as are most of the people I have talked with about the film. Yes, I am aware none of this 100% conclusively proves anything, but it doesn't take a genius to see where the general concensus is going.
I really don't want to argue with you, because you seem to have an answer for everything, but do you remember the shit that people were saying when Fight Club and Donnie Darko came out?
People also said the same things about Blade Runner and Citizen Kane.
Of course, I'm not comparing Snyder's Watchmen to those films, as I'm not the biggest fan of it, although I did enjoy it, I'm just saying that a year isn't enough time for a film to become "enduring", if it ever does become that.
Satan's Slut wrote:
Smutty wrote:
Satan's Slut wrote:
Smutty wrote:
The one thing I still don't understand is that he thinks leonard cohen isn't one of the most famous singers in the world
Are you quite serious?! He hasn't had a Top Ten album in the UK since the 60's/very early 70's and has had ONE single chart in the UK; funnily enough that was 'Hallelujah', which charted at the same time as the Alexandra Burke No 1 and the Jeff Buckley version - Cohen's original just scraped into the top 40.
Just as a rough guide, the Official Leonard Cohen Community has just over 22,000 members WORLDWIDE. Yeah - EVERYBODY knows Leonard...
Well maybe I should have gone to google and searched for "leonard cohen chart success" and "Official Leonard Cohen Community Membership" to back up my argument, but it appears that you've beat me to it.
All I know is that everybody I know knows who he is, I often hear buskers covering his songs, and his concert which isn't happening here for a couple of months is already entirely sold out. It's a big venue and I live in a very small state.
The UK isn't the US or Canada; we have our own oddball manic depressive-sounding singers thanks; Leonard Cohen pretty much a non-entity in the UK outside of a few 'specialist fans'. And just as I don't speak for the whole of the UK, your general experience in the US speak for the UK even less.
I'm an Australian. I live in Australia.
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