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I don't know, I have the feeling Marvel execs are goind to make the stupid decision and bring Punisher with the rest of the other superheroes, it's the same line of thinking as "Why were Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns succesful ? Because they were DAAAAAAAAAWWWRRLKKK".

The only things a Punisher movie has ever needed is a good screen-writer, and a good director, NOTHING ELSE.




Hey Nitey ! That question I left you in the General Talk thread is going to start feeling VERY lonely !

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lol sorry man, I thought it was a nice moment.
You are talking about them when its the "Cold?" "no" "Lonely?" "no" etc
That bit?
Or am I getting shit mixed up?
But its well written moments like that that elevate stories from simply good to really liked it.

Now I ask you, who's your favorite Punisher on film, and if you had to recast, who would you pick?

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I'll be right back. I gotta go see a man about a mule.

Oh, of course I don't believe Marvel would do anything like that with the character; I mean, how else would they be able to sell those toys to kids if The Punisher is portrayed as a broken soldier hanging onto the last pieces of his humanity while fighting a battle he ultimately knows he will lose? That's not marketable.

No, I'm pretty sure that a solid lead actor is kind of essential. A stunt professional of some kind wouldn't hurt, either.

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Somebody who can do brooding pretty well.

Ambiguous answer is ambiguous, seems to me like someone hasn't read Punisher MAX



That last part ? That's also Batman

And yeah, perhaps I'm having misplaced hope that one day someone will read Garth Ennis' brilliant, brilliant, BRILLIANT work on Punisher, see it for what it is, and try to film it.

As of right now, I think the only person capable of doing that, is Zack Snyder, sure, we could day-dream all we want about David Fincher and Martin Scorcese having a go at it, but only Zack has set a precedent.

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I've seen other lists like this compiled on various sites and I think that the team shouldn't change too much, maybe MAYBE bring in Ant-Man and Wasp or Black Panther, but I think if any characters are being added, the focus should be cosmic, bring in characters Nova, Adam Warlock, Starlord, Drax, Gamora, or even Rocket Raccoon. I know people like Silver Surfer are out of grasp, but there are more than enough cosmic characters that could be brought in, and should be brought in long before most of the people on that list.

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He was good to go with the sequel, if I remember correctly. But that was when they were planning a Punisher 2 for like a 2006 release.

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http://splashpage.mtv.com/2012/05/18/ag ... s=share_fb

Very interesting take on the theory that has rapidly been circulating the internet.

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Dude, you drag up a mini I wasn't even a huge fan about, and when I don't snap to and remember stuff from it all of a sudden I -haven't- read it?

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I'll be right back. I gotta go see a man about a mule.

The only thing I'm dragging is me accusing you of lying, you claimed to have read the Punisher MAX saga, yet it is clear you haven't, since you avoid my questions or give non-answers.

The problem is not that you didn't read a comic book, it's that you're still lying after the shit that went down back in the women thread.

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No the problem is you want proof. Proof proof proof.
Here's your fucking proof.



I told you. I got all the max stuff in a big mega torrent last year. I read all of them once.
Bought the ones I was crazy about.
I wasn't crazy about THIS one.
And I'm not lying about any of it.
I'm a huge Punisher fan. EASE UP.

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To not overburden this thread, I shall move this conversation towards the General Talk thread, once again Nitey, meet me there.

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Eh... right, Avengers.



Cosmic characters? Seriously?
Well, I know from the ending of the movie that they'll probably end up doing that, but I really didn't wanted it to go cosmic as fast as that. To me, Fantastic Four works better as a cosmic-focused franchise than Avengers. If Marvel retained the rights to it, I'm sure the Avengers wouldn't have gone to space that quick.

I still want Ant-Man and Wasp in the Avengers. I wanted the Ultron and Vision storyline before anything else, maybe re-unite the Marvel Universe on-film. I still dream to see Beast in the Avengers, if Fox decides to truly reboot X-Men one of these days, or the Avengers meeting the Fantastic Four, or Spider-Man.
On that note, the way I see it, Punisher wouldn't work with the Avengers. Punisher should co-exist with Daredevil and Spider-Man, but having him team-up with the Avengers doesn't seem right at that point.

Also, no need to have them all in feature films! I've always wondered why Marvel doesn't produce some sort of mini-series presenting minor characters like Luke Cage, or Iron Fist. More creative control, less monetary risk... I can't see the downsides, really.

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I disagree, think of the Avengers, they are the most powerful force on Earth. When united they are virtually unstoppable, the greatest threats that face the Avengers are rarely of Earth. i think it's only righ that the grand scope of the Marvel universe is explored in Avengers, and then the solo movies can keep things grounded. The FF do cosmic well because they have first and foremost always eben explorers of the unknown, the Avengers are more guardians of Earth and as such don't stumble across the space based baddies.

I do agree that some non-movie options should be explored, a Power Man and Iron Fist tv series would work great, even though it's basically A-Team with super powers.

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I thought you were Feliciano at first just because he's so intrinsically tied to smiley faces at this point.

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"The world is a fine place and worth fighting for." I agree with the second part.

"There's a cello in your house now."

Agree with you completely on the guardians of the Earth part. That's why I wasn't all that convinced with Thanos, I think his storyline takes place on space...? Never read the Cosmic Gauntlet saga, to be honest.
I feel Avengers should stay on Earth for the most part. Nothing wrong with aliens visiting, but I'm not too keen on our heroes exploring the galaxy.

And as long as tv series go, I'd say there doesn't need to be a series for each character, just a series to present them all. One episode for Moon Knight, another for Luke Cage, another for Cloak and Dagger... Just to add more background to the main feature films of A-list characters. Having them appear in the films in cameo form (or as a more thought out character, if the story needs it), played by the same actors.

At the end, all I want is for them to have everything layed down asap, so they can surprise me. Minus Avengers, every other Marvel film was terribly predictable.

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Wait, what? What makes you think they will go looking for threats outside of Earth? If anything the war is coming yet again to Earth...

I saw this movie 7 times in theaters and it's one of the best comic book movies i've ever seen so far! i've been waiting for this movie for 4 years and before i saw this opening day, i did a marathon of all 5 Avengers movies starting with Captain America then Iron Man then Incredible Hulk to Iron man 2 and finally Thor to link the story together and it blew my mind.

Joss Whedon is a genius and i think this is his biggest triumph and the best Marvel movie ever! this could be comic book cinema's answer to Star Wars, who else thinks so?