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^ Disagree.

- I'm very interested to see what happens in Qarth in upcoming episodes. Just seeing what was through the gates was sort of exciting, a paradise out in the middle of the desert. I'm also wanting to see the state of Daenerys' dragons, seeing as she started acting like one when asked to present them. It's good to see this plot line progressing when the past three episodes have been her wandering through the desert.

- I thought the little standoff between Renly and Stannis was great. Easy to see why the second book is called "A Clash of Kings" ... Having not read the books I can't say what will happen but I have a feeling, based off the way the episode ended, that we may be saying goodbye to young Renly soon ...

- Speaking of the way that episode ended ... WHAT THE FUCK, MAN?

- Tyrion is, as always, a total badass. It's nice having someone stand up to Joffrey's total cuntiness. Speaking of Joffrey and cuntiness, that was some pretty fucked up shit with the prostitutes. Little fucker just keeps getting worse and worse ...

All in all I thought it was maybe the best episode of the new season so far. I've found Season 2 a bit more disjointed and, for lack of a better word, unfocused without a real central protagonist like Ned Stark. While GoT juggled many plot lines in Season 1, it always came back to Ned. At the moment we have around 6 different things going on at once with new characters popping up with no real introduction, and it was only in this episode that we really started to see a couple of these plot lines start to intertwine and hint at the bloodshed that is to come. I'm hoping to see a bit more of Snow up past the Wall, as Season 1 ended with "YE BOYEEE GOIN THRU THE WALL SON" and very little has happened so far.

Anyway, off with Joffrey's head.

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Bizarroooooooooo !

Might have to see this episode tomorrow to give any sort of review, university keeps being the annoying shit it is.

Also Lil'Bernie, you gotta pay royalties to t3cii !

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No, he doesn't. t3cii signed a contract that until a year after the last person does a t3cii rundown... he doesn't own the rights. That being said, after that year he will get the rights back.

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I haven't finished the episode.......YAAAAAAAARRGGHHH !!!!!

And probably won't do so until this afternoon, I'm on a little class break right now, no time.

STILL..............I shall give my own...........

FELI RUNDOWN !



- So, our lovely Daenerys is back in action after being sinfully omitted in the previous episode, her little reception with the "thirteen" of Qarth was nothing short of amazing, acting from Emilia Clarke, the man who played the "Lord with an unpronounceable name" and by the one who would eventually let them in, was nothing short of amazing, apart from Tyrion and Lancel's little "discussion" (if that's what you call moping the floor with your cousin) it was one of the best scenes in the episode.

Also, was it just me or was Emilia Clarke really HOT in this episode ? Maybe it's like John Wayne said !

- Tyrion..........OH TYRION !

I have to say, Lancel was fantastic on this, the level of mental gymnastics performed by his character ("it wasn't my fault!") was one of the most amusing scenes in the episode to me, unfortunately, my server fucking quit on me a few seconds after it, so I haven't yet finished this episode

- THAT DAMN LITTLEFINGER............who I just love now, awesome scene he had with Catelyn, I'd like to see if he shows a noble side to her or if he will just take advantage of Catelyn's predicamente.

As an additional comment, I've always thought of Petyr, Varys and Pycelle as the three "ways" in which power can be wielded. Petyr is vindication, he uses power as a form of retribution against those he feels have always wronged him, like the knights and the aristocracy of Westeros. Varys is purpose, he wants to make Westeros a better place, even if the cost is at times too great. Pycelle, on the other hand, would be interest, he sides with the wealthy, with the ones with more power, only because it serves him.

- Renly and Stannis, what a talk.

There's something about the Baratheons that fascinates me, unlike the other families, they don't seem to share a common theme in particular, the Lannisters are deceitful (sp) yet also extremely loyal, the Targaryens are rulers or madmen, the Starks are honorable and stoic, the Greyjoys are..................assholes, and religious ones at that.

But what do all Baratheon share ? Assholeness as well given Robert's glutonuos behavior ? Or Stannis's relentless desire for power ? Renly seems decent, but in this war, he's out of his element !

Finally.......

Joffrey.......

Yeah, I don't think we had seen ANYTHING yet when we saw a baby getting stabbed to death !

God, what a horrible little shit Joffrey is ...

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As long as I keep watching this show you will not be the only one thinking Emilia Clarke is insanely hot.

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@RealSlimCAvery

NO

Reply to more shit, I don't do those rundowns just to inmortalize my opinion of the goddamn show !

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I believe you mean "immortalize" not "inmortalize." There, I comments on more stuff

I'll be back for more later though, I'm doing stuff inbetween classes and I don't have a ton of time.

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HOLY...

FUCKING...

SHIT...

Brooklyn...............Avatar..............Kori...............ANYONE !!!

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I won't be able to discuss it until later today... but when I see it I'll discuss it

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@RealSlimCAvery

A couple points about this weeks ep.

+ Tyrion continues to be a bad ass, leading the troops when Joffrey bitches out was an amazing scene... mainly because we see that Tyrion actually cares about others now (meaning it's a matter of time until Shay gets the hard goodbye)

+ Lena Headey should win the emmy. Her Cersei is more layered than an onion parfeit (I really don't care about the proper spelling of that) and the scenes with her and Sansa ave been golden.

+ The actions scenes were on par with what I've come to expect from theatre films, the ships and the landing sequence was extremely well done and it was nice to finally have an epic battle.

+ Joffrey's downfall is rapidly approaching, me thinks. Tywin just had a crossing the Rubicon moment, the people of King's Landing will have a lot of affection for the Lannisters (after Tyrion and Tywin save the day) and Baratheons can't be too popular right now...

+ The Hound got the best moments he's had in the entire series, we finally get to see the man that is beneath the mantle.

+ For me it lacked enough non King's Landing scenes, there is literally a world of drama... a sift in focus would have built some suspense and filled us in on te other story lines.

I think this was the best episode of the series, though. There was action, drama, and even some boobage. I can't wait until next sunday.

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GOOD ! Thy Doctor has appeared !

Now everyone else, get your bearings and start discussin'............or else !



Well, so far Cersei has been pretty oblivious to EVERYTHING around her, for someone as devious and deceptive, she sure as shit had a hard time losing her insider in the Council and gloating about NOT capturing Tyrion's mistress



I'd rather give any credit to Cersei's great presence in this episode to a fat, four-eyed Santa Claus pretender called George R.R. Martin !

Lena Headey is a decent actress, but she's not really on par with others like Dinklage, Flynn, Clarke, Gillen, among others. That thing she does with her lips, which 90% of the times ends in "I want to poop" face got old back when she appeared in frikkin 300.



WILDFIRE

*drools*



It's an interesting thought, because it raises questions about what the commoner really thought about the battle, for all we know, they might have been rooting for Stannis given how they were throwing.......black.....unknown.....stuff at Joffrey's face a few episodes ago, I mean, Joffrey isn't exactly the "Bad person, good king" type of ruler, people hate his fucking guts, and they do Tyrion's as well; what was it that they called him ? Devil monkey or some shit ?

At least people didn't seem to be up in arms when Robert ruled the land, seriously, is there anyone in Westeros that has any appreciation for the Lannisters but themselves ?

Then of course is the little issue with the "spoils of war" thing Stannis was mostly going to.........overlook, to mildly describe.............raping and pillaging



Kinda trying to decide who is the real comedian of Westeros ! Either him or Jamie Lannister.

The thing about Sandor Clegane is that he is more tragic, and less self-aware, he is conflicted, unlike Jamie who just doesn't give a single fuck !



SCREW everyone else !

I sure want to see what is happening with the others, but that could perfectly wait until next week, any change of scenery would've broken the constant tension of the battle, besides, we don't get episodes without large jumps as often as we'd like, so I thought for once, it was a good experiment !

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Yeah, but they could write some of the finest lines, but if she doesn't perform them well it doesn't matter who wrote it, or even how good the writing is.



Well, seeing as how two of them just saved King's Landing and the people in it... I'm sure there is some new found Lannister love.

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Opinion-wise, I didn't think she performed well, too much "poop face" for my liking, somebody needs to tell that woman that facial expressions aren't limited to the lips !

For my part, the greatness of her scenes worked in the script, the writing perfectly reflected her hateful attitude towards...............everything............at that point



Despite my love for Tyrion, the Lannisters were just saving the integrity of their necks, I'm pretty sure that, given how amnesiac and amoral medieval society used to be, Stannis would've been hailed as a hero even if his soldiers had raped and looted their fair amount of King's Landing.

Hopefully, some folk (those that survived that goddamn Baratheon rush) may remember Tyrion's actions, apart from a nasty scar (if that's all he got) Tyrion has also won a lot of respect with Blackwater.

Even then, apart from the soldiers and militia, Joffrey is still going to give him avalanches of shit. Also, given how Tywin is in town, Tyrion may no longer be Hand Of The King.

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Yeah, stannis would have been caleld a hero because he holds their lives in their hands... the way medieval rulers worked was ruling with fear, nobody loved Robert or Drogo and they don't love Joffrey, any defferance paid to them is purely out of fear. Now the Lannisters have that fear inducing way about them, seeing as how Tywin and his army are going to be in and or around the city it's very easy to believe the people will be more inclined to respect the rich powerful man with the strong army as opposed to Joffrey, who's army won't be as loyal to him... the Hound was a microcasm of the much larger loss of morale "Fuck the King," Joffrey lost someone who was very loyal to the crown (hence the name) how do you think the city guard will treat him?

The parallels to rome are obvious, and Tywin is Julius.

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Not. At. All.

Love is "probably" inadequate, a better description for a "loved" medieval leader is a mix of admiration, faith, loyalty, devotion, respect, etc.

Before Drogo fell, his khalasar admired him, he was "The Rider", "The Undefeated", his unborn son was already myth ! Drogo was as close to a god as a human could be among Dothraki........I miss him

Same for Daenerys, "The Mother Of Dragons", "The Rightful Queen", even with a pretty small and shitty contingent, she still has that "love".

Even for someone as ruthless as Stannis, it still applies for him, as well as Renly (at the time), and for Robb as THE KINGINNANORTH !



If Tywin doesn't sort Joffrey's issues, people will still hate the shit out of the Lannisters, he fills the two prime requisites for being utterly despised in Medieval Society, he is rich and he is also powerful.

And how will the city guard treat who ? Joffrey ?

If they aren't all dead, they will all be replaced as easily as meat on a stand, no room for dissent among underlings.......................makes me wonder what will happen with Bronn now !

Also, Joffrey is still King, while Tywin is Hand, it's not like the latter got "crown by victory"

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Why did they think of him as those things though? Oh yeah... because he was the bad mother fucker who could kill them. As soon as the fear was gone... so was the respect, which means it was never real respect to start with.



there are always exceptions, some rulers are genuinely loved, and the small group of former slave that stuck with Daenerys could have done it out of respect... or I don't know... the fact that she has THREE FUCKING DRAGONS!!!! I find it hard to believe that some one that was a former slave wouldn't see the opportunity to gain power... and pass on it to wander in a desert... as a slave.



If you honestly think that Tywin isn't going to use every bit of sway he can to control Joffrey... you should just stop watching this show and walk away slowly. Everything Tywin has done on the show has been all about power and getting more of it. Do you really think Tywin will go "Well, I'm not King... so I'll just listen to Joffrey" No, the Hand is going to start pulling the puppets strings.

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Or...............they actually admired him

Nobody worships a person as a divine figure, like in Drogo's case, without a having a degree of admiration for said individual, obviously fear is an essential part of being a classic medieval ruler, but Drogo's Khalasar followed him, and it didn't seem like they were being coerced.

Even without the "divinity" layer you can find good examples like the Baratheon Bros. and Robb Stark, all of whom are followed by men who have sworn them loyalty because of said respect and admiration.



I didn't get the last part about the slaves, but about "THREE FUCKING DRAGONS !!!!" (relax a little bit) it's not like she is just in posession of them, she emerged out of a burning pyre unscathed and hatched three dragon eggs in a time where dragons were thought to be completely extinct, it's completely understandable some would swear loyalty to her after such a feat.



Sooner or later

I never said Tywin was going to bend the knee at Joffrey, he is obviously going to influence him as much as he can, but unless Tywin is planning a subtle coup to become King, I find it very interesting that he would find himself just fine as Hand Of The King and Head Of House Lannister, it does bring very interesting questions about his character, which we could still discuss if you dropped the animosity.

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I did concede there will be exceptions.




The part about the slaves is as follows: The slaves that became Daenerys's Khalisar saw the ability to leave behind their chains and ride coat tails to power. Their other choice was following Drogo's former Khalisar and remaining slaves. Again, though, the respect they give to her is more fear of her power. Yeah, if someone emerged out of a funeral pyre holding dragons I'd swear loyalty, mostly out of fear of what she'll dow ith the Dragons if I DON'T.



I think to the public he's going to just be the Hand of the King, but soon, for all intents and purposes, he'll be the King due to influence over Joffrey.

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I don't think Drogo's Khalasar was composed of 40.000 slaves.

Sure, they raped and pillaged their way through the continent, but did they even take slaves in the khalasar !? Mirri Mazz Dhurr (sp) said herself she had been raped many times by Dothraki warriors, and she was still a priest at the temple where she lived.



Or because you are in absolute awe that a human being just.................doesn't burn ? And because you live in an era where it's ideal to serve a powerful leader ?

I don't know, I'm just not seeing the fear thing at all.



Most likely scenario, though I still wonder, why just Hand ? Why not kick Joffrey out of the throne and become King himself ? He alone bankrolls Westeros, has a large army, has plenty of supporters.

If something as clear and simple as "Brother follows in the line of succesion" can be so easily dismissed, if the a king's final words mean less than piss, then why doesn't Tywin find some excuse to remove Joffrey and then take over and be King ? Perhaps he doesn't want a target on his back ? Maybe he'd rather stay as close to his family as possible ? Fascinating stuff.

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